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Oh for Christs Sake, lets get real here. The reason that the ratster has his panties in a wad is the fact that this web site promotes AUL products and not his gear. All this huff-and-puffery is just a smokescreen and a bunch of baby-like boo-hooing that, frankly, does not reflect well on Miller or his products. You are in the real world now, Miller, you need to start acting like a business professional and not a redneck hillbilly pickemuptruck cowboy. You need to take your marketing medicine like a man and quit belaboring the list with your whining. Jim Sender: Michel Therrien Date: 3/24/99 9:29 AM >Dear Pagefix, (who is Pagefix?) > >I am not Barry's friend, nor a WKPP diver or affiliate. I will admit that >I don't always like the attitude of some WKPP leaders. > >This said, the reason why I wrote the message is not to defend Barry... it >is a question of principle. I have no tolerance for pirating, steeling and >unethical behavior such as taking someones material without his permission. > I propably have this attitude because I worked in the software industry (I >don't know). > >Is there a reason why you stay anonymous? This is another thing I have >problem with... I guess. > >Please note that the issue for me is not legal... it is ethical. While the >law may allow to copy someone's material for educative purposes, I don't >think this is honest. > >Is it so hard to ask permission to use material PRIOR to using it? I was >flattered that the NSS-CDS recently asked me to use some of my pictures. >On the other hand, I would have been really pissed off if I saw my pictures >without any prior discussion about their use. > >Michel Therrien >Montreal, Canada > >PS: I know it is unethical to copy private messages in public forums, but I >started public and I think your answer may help the rest of the crowd to >understand your position. > > >At 09:04 AM 3/24/99 EST, you wrote: >>Michel the video was given to one of our sponsors and we took some clips of >>it. The law states that you can us this type of material as long as you are >>not selling it to make a profit. We e-mailed Barry with an apology for the >>mistake and fixed the problem. He didn't post that part on you cavers list >>just the other parts that he wanted you to see. The fact of the matter is we >>would have agreed with what he asked but after the flaming he gave us we took >>a defensive posture. What is wrong with him has he no respect for >anything or >>one? I am sorry if you want to punish AUL for Barry Millers Flaming and Lies >>to us. But if you feel like the only way to help Barry is kicking another >>company so be it. >>Most people don't use the language that Barry has used to a dog but if he >>wants to talk like that it a free country and God bless him. >>Please except our apologies for any misunderstanding and thanks for you >input. >>pagefix@ao* >> >> >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aq*.co*'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aq*.co*'. > ------------------------------------------------------------------- Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/trimix.html
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