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From: "Lais, Bill" <BLais@ha*.co*>
To: "'Kent Lind'" <Kent.Lind@no*.go*>
Cc: "'cavers@cavers.com'" <cavers@cavers.com>
Subject: RE: o2 for ocean deco
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 17:48:28 -0500
Try it using a shallower profile, with an extended bottom time.

Last dive I did was 60 minutes on a 150 ft profile using 26/15 in a stage,
and 20/25 in my doubles.  I did 55 minutes of deco for that dive.  I don't
have the *exact* deco profile with me here at work, but my deco stops from
70 to 30 ft totaled 25 minutes.  Guess what; my 20 ft stop (did not do a 10
ft stop) was only 30 minutes.  

Bill Lais, E.I. -  Engineer  II
Handex of Florida - Mt. Dora, Fl.
352/735-1800  ext. 166


		-----Original Message-----
		From:	Kent Lind [SMTP:Kent.Lind@no*.go*]
		Sent:	Wednesday, March 17, 1999 2:37 PM
		To:	cavers@cavers.com
		Subject:	Re: o2 for ocean deco


		"Lais, Bill" wrote:
		> 
		> This has to be a troll, but just in case it's not:
		> 
		> You're probably going to be breathing the 50/50 deeper
than the O2, and
		> hence you'll consume more gas.  I think we learned about
this concept in OW1
		> if I'm not mistaken.   ;-)

		> Bill

		Bill, what kind of deco schedules do you run that requires
more
		consumption of 50/50 than O2?   Out of curiousity, I ran a
sample
		profile in Abyss of a square profile 20 min. dive to 200' on
19/30 with
		50/50 and O2 deco gases.   Using a RMV of 0.6 cf/min Abyss
		came up with deco gas usage as follows:

		50/50:   22.3 cf consumed
		O2:        22.8 cf consumed

		On a typical deco curve, the shallow O2 stops are so much
longer
		than the deep 50/50 stops that you end up consuming as much
or
		more O2 than 50/50.  Of course, a much deeper dive profile
might
		produce different results.  But for ocean diving with AL40s
the
		above profile seems pretty realistic.

		So, I think Ted's question about bottle choice is quite
valid, 
		especially given that it's much easier to fill 50/50 to
higher
		pressures and O2 is a more useful gas to have in 
		reserve for surface emergencies.  I happen to use two AL 40s
		for ocean deco but if I was compelled to use different
		size bottles, I'd chose the larger one for my O2.  I can jam
		50/50 up to 3000 psi no problem.  But I'm very hard pressed
		to get more than 2000 of O2 into any bottle.

		Kent Lind
		Juneau, Alaska

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