8 semis trainlers of gear and they could not do what we do in one Little Piker Weekend. Now we can go back and get on with exploring the cave since they were unable to get to any of it. They missed half ( 25,000 feet ) of what we have already done, and we have not done much relative to what is there within easy reach. I am just glad these morons did not get any of the cave that I was saving for my Cave Stallions who have busted their chops learning how to do this properly and deserve to be able to do the exploration. The biggest thanks goes to Chris Werner, who went over to Indian to "dive", let the usdct all gather around and ask questions, and "let it slip" that we "don't go over the Mountain". Being idiots and complete neophytes, these deco weenies believed Chris because they wanted to believe that. They never saw the tunnel at the Mountain, and hence missed miles of beautiful giant conduit that is only partially explored. That deep air diving vagrant Kikok got his panties in a wad so badly over the line being broken in K Tunnel that he never thought we might actually cut some back completely . I did , I admit it, and they never found it. He thought we were hiding K - K only adds a ton of deco to the dives ( we don't do it anyway, so we go any way we please). What a complete moron - they never even suspected any jumps, only T's, and they did not understand that the best way on is not the continuous line, but most often the T'd line. In fact, to get to the 18,065 end, you must make 18 correct decisions as to the T's and jumps. They never even got halfway there. Then Chris told them that A had all the leads. They way he told them, they thought he must be lying. He was telling the truth. They got so twisted around back there that they did a giant dive in circles and thought the arrows were wrong.I laughed my ass off when I saw the depth reading from the dives . I know that survey inside out, and I could see them pasing over the same known spots repeatedly, geting near the end, and going the wrong way each time - a clasic. Then Brent told Stone is "got small" back there ( again the truth, but not the whole story), so Kekuk believed it and stalled at the first restriction, beyond which the cave is the size of Diepolder II . They then did not believe my map of A ( Stone asked Brent if it was one big "room" but did not believe the answer), and did not know I left off five tunnels there, three tunels off of O, and that there was an inadvertant transmission error on the web map that we never corrected which pushjes M to the east ( the small portion of it that we released a map for), instead of south . When they tried to figure it all out, they mistook the A-O crossover for A. A actually ramps up over O, goes over the Chamber, goes over K, and heads Northwest towards Leon Sinks at a depth of only 200 feet. The end is only 7500 feet out, and they missed it. We left it because we did not have enough dives before the cave went down last August ( we thought we could get it last since it was so close in and so shallow - we do that stuff on open circuit), and had to be sure to get anything in O since we knew that all these heroes wanted to do was try to compete with us ( they failed miserably at that one). We got everything out to 9,500 feet and just jumped the rest. The Brits fell just shy of reaching that tunnel, and the plethora of leads we had to leave beyond that point. We felt ok with that one since that lead has another mile of line in it, and the first lead off of it is 3 grand in. The mother lode is all just beyond Cherokee Sink. We were well aware that these guys could not operate effectively "Downtown" like we can . They just do not have the skill, knowledge, techniques, gear or teamwork to run for hours and then play the game with total relaxed ease and comfort that we do. They also do not have the hundreds of dives like this to know what works and what does not, and to know for sure that they will be home for dinner . They also did not have somebody calling the shots who knew what they were talking about - a HUGE difference in confindence and results. These dopes tried to go down the sypon at Cherokee on sidemount, not knowing that the tunnel we put in there goes clean over the O Tunnel 100 feet above it and then dives down deeper than O Tunnel beyond it, completely missing it. Hello, the "connection" is on the other side through another tunnel, and again, if you can not get the big gear through there, then there is no point in bothering with it. We did not need to cave radio that one, we could see the sinkhole from underneath on both sides, and my survey method is dead accurate, contrary to what that bullshitter Stone said about it. The best two misses of all were actually one in K that is right at the beginning - they were so glued to the line they never saw it, and one that they rode under every day in the ceiling that is a "nose on your face" obvious tunnel, clearly marked on the line below. Thes guys must never have looked right, left up or down. A cave to them looks like the cis lunar display only. I got nervous when I read about that stroke Hinerth putting down the mapper on a "shelf" to recalibrate it. That shelf is sitting right under a huge tunnel that is not T'd into A - the big timer missed it completely, but then if I were diving with this collection of buddy leaving strokes, I would have missed it also. When it is "every man for himself," it is no longer anything but trying to stay alive , as proven by the usdct. Unfortunatley, my team has instructed me not to release any maps of any tunnel of any cave until that portion is walled out beyond any question, so we will not be releasing any Wakulla maps . They feel that anyone with a big story can get a permit and go have a shot at us, and there is no telling who will try it next or what the great excuse will be. Obviously , a decade of hard work and great results means nothing - this has been proven to us. Leon Sinks is nobody's business but the people who are letting us dive, and I am legally bound to run all data through them. There will be no maps of that in public hands either. While I seriously doubt that anyone will be able to override my long term agreements there, after this last fiasco, we are never taking that chance again. Besides setting back cave diving for decades, creating an embarrssing cluster, and doing absolutely nothing, Stone has now driven us to secrecy . The attitude of my team is now that nobody needs to know how we do anything, and those secrets are going to stop with those guys since they are the only ones I show anything to, and if they think that way, then that is the way it will be, since they are the future of this project. The usdct is and was everything I said it is and was, and I was right on every count with those guys. Now they can be remembered for what they are - complete idiots, and dangerous strokes. mike bruic wrote: > > Yes, they even posted it, they also stated that it would take 8 semi > trailers to remove all the gear, I suspect 4 of these are needed to > remove all the droppings left by the lab rats and Stone. BTW, was Barb > the bearded lady???? > > Bruic
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