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-----Original Message----- From: Bill Cowan <BCowan@gu*.ne*> To: Ken Sallot <kens@ac*.ne*> Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 9:58 AM Subject: Re: in all seriousness >Your right Ken, I don't like your answer. I've been diving for 10 years >now, both open water and over-head environments with no problems. If >someone is a diabetic (type 1 or 2), they will always be a diabetic. You >can "control" diabetes with diet, exercise, and medication, but you will >still have the disease. Therefor, I find your recommendation to stop cave >diving "period" is very closed minded. Your friend is a "controlled" >diabetic. Please foward your recommendation to him, I would be very >interested in his reply. As I stated before, I have been diving for 10 >years now without any problems. I do give the following recommendations to >all diabetics (type 1 & 2) who continue to dive (cave or otherwise): >1. control your diabetes >2. check your BGL before and after each dive (put it in your log book) >3. eat a good meal of complex carbs. before the dive >4. carry a tube of glucose paste with you during the dive >5. if dive is long w/deco, store food (clif bar, fruit bar) not candy with >your deco bottles. >6. stay well hydrated before, during, and after the dive. high BGL's have a >diuretic effect on the body, and we all know the evils of dehydration! >*** MOST IMPORTANT - "EXPLAIN" your condition to your dive partners. Don't >just tell them that you are a diabetic, "EXPLAIN". If they no longer wish >to dive with you, that is their choice, but make it an informed choice. If >they still wish to dive with you, make sure that they know the signs to look >for and what to do for you if you do happen to have a diabetic emergency. >Be very honest with yourself and your dive partners, don't push your >personal limits. >-----Original Message----- >From: Ken Sallot <kens@ac*.ne*> >To: Bill Cowan <BCowan@pc*.gu*.ne*> >Cc: cavers@cavers.com <cavers@cavers.com> >Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 7:16 AM >Subject: Re: in all seriousness > > >Bill, > >Turn off the caps lock before writing email to anyone or you'll not >get much in the way of pleasant responses. > >Type 2 is adult onset, correct? Usually caused by being overweight. A >quote from www.diabetes.org, "The risk of developing type 2 diabetes >increases with age, obesity, and lack of physical activity." > >The risk is that at some point during the dive a diabetics blood >sugar drops to such a point that they go into a diabetic coma. >Decompression diving especially puts the diver at risk of this >because of the extra stresses on the body (hypothermia, extra >exertion, etc). > >For recreational diving I would say to a non-insulin dependent >diabetic they should be ok as long as they get doctors approval to >engage in the activity. > >But, for decompression diving, overhead environment (cave/wreck), or >deep diving, any diabetic who engages in the activity (insulin >dependent or non-insulin dependent) is needlessly putting both >himself and his dive buddies at risk. If you're a type 2 diabetic >then you need to quit cave diving, period. I know you may not like >this answer, but it's for your own good. If you're insulin dependent >you need to quit diving of any sort. > >On the other hand, there are numerous studies of non-insulin >dependent type II diabetics who have beaten the diabetes curse >through diet and exercise. I know a guy in Atlanta who a year ago was >diagnosed as a diabetic, and when I saw him at the NACD conference in >November he informed me the doctors couldn't find a trace of diabetes >in him now. He beat it through diet and exercise (although his diet >is a little radical). So, if you're a non-insulin dependent diabetic, >take the weight off and start a regular exercise program. The only >thing holding you back is yourself. > >Ken > >> From: "Bill Cowan" <BCowan@pc*.gu*.ne*> >> To: "Ken Sallot" <kens@ac*.ne*> >> Subject: Re: in all seriousness >> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:56:23 -0600 > >> I DO NOT KNOW OF THIS INCIDENT, BUT AS A CAVE DIVER WHO IS A TYPE 2 >> DIABETIC, I WAS WONDERING WHAT DIABETES HAD TO DO WITH HIS APPARENT O2 >TOX. >> IF ANYONE HAS ANY GOOD INFO ON DIABETES (TYPE 1 OR 2) AND DIVING PLEASE >> EMAIL ME WITH IT. THIS SUBJECT IS CURRENTLY UNDER STUDY BY DAN AND IS OF >> VERY SPECIAL INTEREST TO ME. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ken Sallot <kens@ac*.ne*> >> To: cavers@cavers.com <cavers@cavers.com> >> Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 3:27 PM >> Subject: in all seriousness >> >> >> I did hear someone toxed at Wakulla yesterday. I have heard he's >> alive, but that's all. >> >> Does anyone know how long he's been a diabetic? The word was his >> diabetes coupled with a head cold (which made him take a bunch of >> sudafed) contributed to his higher then usual susceptability to >> oxygen toxicity. >> >> Ken >> "Say, is that your Captain Marvel secret decoder lunchbox you got >> hanging back there?" - Anon E. Mouse >> >> >> >"Say, is that your Captain Marvel secret decoder lunchbox you got >hanging back there?" - Anon E. Mouse > >
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