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Please don't paint everybody trained in Mexico with the same brush. If that were the case, anyone not diving Missouri caves at 42 degrees would be a stroke. Progressive penetrations, adapting our training, and rule #1(not diving with strokes) has given us the ability to dive in 5-10 ft vis and enjoy cold water environment here. Know your buddy, know your equipment, know your experienced level. That should be a pretty big target- range open. On Mon, 1 Feb 1999 13:18:43 -0500 (EST) "Drew Glasbrenner (GLY)" <aglasbr1@br*.ac*.us*.ed*> writes: >I don't think you understood me. I said teaching trimix and cave at >the >same time, not sequentially. > > I would say that people who have only dove gas in the cave >environment, >emphasis on the only, should be hesitant and >take baby steps diving gas in a cave, and only if they are good cave >divers to begin with. Vice-versa is true also. Cave divers had better >understand the implications and differences diving gas in the ocean >before >they jump in to do the Doria or whatever. Even PADI understands this >when >they tell OW students that they are only certified in the environment >in >which they trained. Come to think of it maybe the same thing should go >for >the guys certified in the 20 ft deep and warm as pee Mexican caves. > >Regardless, there are too many guys with 10-15 dives going out and >buying >serious gear and signing up for a cavern through full cave course in a >week. Even worse there are twice as many ex-SEAL instructors ready to >give >them the blessing of a c-card. > >In my opinion the best solution is what JJ has done, making the >classes >more intensive and comprehensive, and the loyalty that his students >show >to the method confirms the superiority of his concepts in teaching. I >think GUE will come as close to my idea of a perfect situation, long >term >mentorship, as can be done commercially. > >But thats just my opinion. > > > Drew Glasbrenner >USF Geology Program >aglasbr1@br*.ac*.us*.ed* > >> >> Drew; >> What does one have to do with the other, aside from the fact that >cave >> may, and mix does, require decompression? One is a technique/skill >> class, the other is a gas class. I knew divers who were trimix >certified >> for ocean dives and then later went for cave. >> >> Either way, it is truely pathetic that the diver in question could >get >> into a cave class with only 6 o/w classes. >> >> Regards >> Peter >> > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
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