Catheters are only painful when you don't properly groom yourself!! ;-) Bill Lais, E.I. - Engineer II Handex of Florida - Mt. Dora, Fl. 352/735-1800 ext. 166 -----Original Message----- From: Dixieboca@ao*.co* [SMTP:Dixieboca@ao*.co*] Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 11:17 AM To: techdiver@aq*.co*; cavers@cavers.com Subject: something other than a catheter I was in the medical supple house the other day and was told about a jockstrap with a "holster" for the "gun" :). Although I didn't get to personally see it, they told me it was machine washable and the "holster" just slipped on the "gun" with a seal reminiscent of a drysuit neck seal (The seal starts at 20 mm and you cut it to size). Just wondering if anyone has had experience using this with a pee valve. It looks like a pretty good option considering how painful those external catheters are when you take them off. Thanks in advance, Ted
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