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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:24:29 -0500
To: cavers@cavers.com
From: Charles Ayash <cagraphics@mi*.co*>
Subject: Re: I need a new light....
No way dude the question was Why.

I gave some of the more obvious reasons as to Why.

I did not ask Barry to fix my light, Barry took my light 
and fixed it because he is just that  kind of a Man..

This is chest pounding? I dont think so.

These are simply statements that are   "Matter of Fact"

I have no qualm's about who anybody on this list buys their
gear from.

I have bought my share of inferior equipment and if I 
can help steer anyone away from making a bad choice with 
a purchase you can bet I will, Because 

I Am a Cave Diver. 


Enough said I am off to med I co





At 08:33 PM 1/22/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I really shouldn't bother responding to this but....... I don't thing i said
>anything bad about barrys lights, JJ is one of the finest instructors and
>people i've ever had the pleasure of meeting. I've never tried applied or
>considered selling Barrys lights (not because of any quality issue) I have
>more than enough lighting products here, My only objection was what you just
>did, just pound, ours is bigger, fatter stronger ( sounds like a locker room
>discussion). If somebody (there was finaly a decent post) would have said in
>logical, read laymans terms, we think Barrys product is best because of
>................................................. with a little substance
>and information included it would have been an enjoyable post. We all
>support our friends in there endevors in life, but really information is
>what was requested. Not a chevys and fords statement, build a case, present
>it, back up your information with data and you win. Were i was raised fuck
>you is only good to start fights that never solve anything. Bill
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Scarabin, Brent <BrentScarabin@ne*.co*>
>To: William Allen <william@ca*.co*>; Scott Landon
><js_landon@ho*.co*>; submrge@wo*.at*.ne*
><submrge@wo*.at*.ne*>; cavers@cavers.com <cavers@cavers.com>
>Date: Thursday, January 21, 1999 9:20 PM
>Subject: Re: I need a new light....
>
>
>>At 04:51 AM 1/22/99 -0500, William Allen wrote:
>>>Geez and with that commercial message from the wkpp for another wkpp's
>>>members product I hope we can end the advertising day. Couldn't you guys
>>>just say "I'm a wkpp member we support the business's of ou
>>
>> Nah, but we can say "FUCK YOU". You are definitely not one to talk about
>>marketing abuse on this list.
>>
>>Sour Grapes maybe. JJ and Barry will not let you peddle their light on your
>>page. I know AJ makes a decent light, but the initial question was compare
>>the AUL Spec 100 to the Extreme Exposure Explorer 14 or Pro 14. Stand the
>>AUL and the EE side by side, and it will be readily apparent which is the
>>superior light. You can't argue with that, regardless of who makes it. I
>>will not even get into the service and support issues.
>>I don't walk around routinely hammering my lights either, but if you have
>>ever been in rough seas...... "forget about it". And yes, you definitely
>>need a clear cannister when diving an AUL ;)
>>BTW, it is rather obvious Arnold didn't father your dog, one kick and all
>>the sorry mutts legs would have fallen off. And I don't put him in one of
>>AJ's housings unless your planning on bathing the smelly bastard.
>>
>>
>
>

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