Rich, was this when you did two 60 minute bottom times at 300 feet in one day. I agree with you - there is no way there ever could be any problems with a Cis Lunar, no matter how ricidulous it it. What does NEDU or Diving Sytems know anyway compared to Bill Stone? Just read the Wakulla 2 updates - there are clearly never any problems with anything but the divers - everything works perfectly. In fact things go so smoothly that these guys are able to complete dives in only "triple" the time of the WKPP, and they have done in a mere 45 days what the WKPP could only hope to get done in a single morning. In addition, the Cis Lunar is proving invaluable as a decompresion tool, allowing divers to do three or four times the required decompression. Rick, this is one fine piece of technology, and I for one can understand your enthusiam in lying about it so consistenly. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.or*> To: rebreather@nw*.co* <rebreather@nw*.co*> Cc: "mike bruic" <mikebruic@di*.co*> Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 6:27 AM Subject: O2 Sensor Condensation > >> What's next???????? try flushing your O2 sensors after a 5 hr. bottom time >> (been there, done that). The sensor pod goes erratic from condensation >after >> about 2 hours. DECO on the unit can be done, but, F^$$$$&&&%$ the tables >> it provides (no I dont want pizza). > >I missed the thread that started this (seems as though someone cross-posted >this to the rebreather list), but I'd really like some follow-up >information. I've "been there, done that" on 5-hour dives several times, >and sensor flushing has always worked just as well then as it does 30 >minutes into the dive. I've been on many dives over 2 hours in duration. >The trend I've noticed on my rebreather is that erroneous O2 sensor readings >due to condensation almost never happen before about 90 minutes into the >dive, and thereafter are rare (about one sensor per 15 dives of this >duration), and always are immediately correctible with a sensor flush. In >400 plus hours of dive time, only once did I have two simultaneous erratic >readings, and again that was immediately corrected with a sensor flush >(sensors worked fine for the remaining 120 minutes of the dive). It's also >very apparent that the condensation problem gets worse in warmer ambient >water (which at first seems paradoxical, but actually makes sense when you >think about it). > >I hear a lot of talk about condensation causing serious sensor error, but I >just don't see it happening. My "reality checks" always confirm that the >sensors are responseive and correct, and a flush with O2 at 20 feet >consistently results in 1.62 on all three sensors. On the rare cases when a >sensor does drop out of line from the others dure to condensation, a flush >has always brought it back online immediately, and it has stayed on line for >the remainder of the dive (sometimes hours). > >I'm not trying to rehash the old arguments we've seen on this list (Lord >knows we've beat that one to death) - I just want to get some more concrete >information on these reported O2 sensor failures from condensation, and try >to understand why they don't happen to me. > >Aloha, >Rich > >
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