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Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 07:56:28 -0500
From: KVI <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: DIR
To: Grady Richardson <grichardson@wo*.at*.ne*>
CC: chris@sc*.ed*, cavers@cavers.com
Subject: Re: ...contridiction- MY opinion.
This is accurate. So far they have done nothing that we would not do on
oc for obvious reasons. Their biggest dive so far is a single stage to
us. 

In fact, eveything they are doing is holding them back from getting any
thing done . 39 days of nothing, and we could have done everything they
have done so far in one day.

We frequently run up to six teams to accomplish objectives like
simutaneously taking water samples from most tunnels in one day.

What they are proving is that their methods are wrong, their gear is
wrong, and they have the wrong people doing it.

Keep in mind that in one day we had a team add line in B Tunnel, add
line in M Tunnel 8000 feet out, and we had a team add line in O Tunnel
out to 18,000 feet, and I was home in Lauderdale the next morning.

All thse guys are proving is how bad they are, how ignaorant they are,
and what phonies they are. One million dollars blown and they can't do
in 39 days what we can do in hours.

Grady Richardson wrote:
> 
> Chris
> 
> Absolutely right! It would have been better to train at another location
> before the start of the project. Better yet for Stone to have stayed at
> home. It also would have been better, from a safety standpoint, to engineer
> OUT as many failure points as possible on the RB instead of engineering
> more IN. Finally, the shortcomings of the project will be the original idea
> behind the Cis, to extend cave exploration beyond the limits of OC.
> 
> GR
> 
> >Grady,
> >       You are on the money- and that's what this is all about. The problem
> >is that what should have been done is reverse this order. Validation,
> >that is proving the system in Little River, Ginnie, or even the Leon
> >Sinks system, leads to acceptance which, in turn, leads to sales. I
> >don't know a whole lot about rebreathers but I do understand that the
> >process being followed is an attempt at short-cutting proper
> >development and one thing I *have* learned is that, at best,
> >shortcuts don't work and, at worst, can be disasterous. With lives at
> >stake on the outcome, this is unconscionable. (my opinion)
> >C.
> >
> >
> >Chris Elmore
> >Network Manager
> >University of SC
> >(803) 777-1534 office
> >(803) 348-3055 mobile
> >


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