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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:25:09 -0500
From: KVI <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: DIR
To: cavers@cavers.com
Subject: no subject
Subject: 
            CIS LUNAR SALES PITCH
       Date: 
            Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:24:18 -0500
       From: 
            KVI <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: 
            DIR
         To: 
            BillStone@co*.co*
        CC: 
            freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*
       BCC: 
            kirvine@sa*.ne*


Stone, our guys were in the room for Nordstrom's pitch of the rb at
NEDU ( your real reason for being at Wakulla). I straightened them all
out on your "bottom times", your "contract of silence", and other items
of import.

   I also straightened them out on your "deco program". You obviously
forgot that these guys test us when we dive, and probably had trouble
keeping a straght face for much of this. You also forget that there were
people in the room who dive Wakulla.

   Let me explain something to your fairy tale self: an electronic rb is
a known quantity - the problems are well understood. Yours , on the
other hand , not only has those problems, but introduces so many more
problems that the chances for screwup are exponentially higher with
yours than with what is either in play or being considered by those
people.

   Let me explain one more thing - I don't like you in my business any
more than you like me in yours, only I do it ( other people's business)
better tham you do. Stop lying about us and stop taking credit for what
we have done that you will never, ever , ever get close to doing . We
will never let you get away with this. You have 100 pissed off people
who will do whatever it takes to get that word out to where it counts.

   We have found out about the lies and crap you put in the "Wakulla
News". In there you say you have "the best and most experienced cave
divers in the World". The fact is that you have the absolute worst ,
most inexperienced bad examples of deep air diving leave dead buddy in
cave pretenders who own no dive gear , scooters, or rebreathers of their
own , who have never done anything in Leons Sinks or anywhere else, and
who are there at Wakulla trying to learn how to do this. The fact is
that anyone in cave diving who knows anything is as far away from you as
they can get. The few pros who tried to play already quit. Bruic has
spilled the beans on you big time, as have the others who have left, as
if we did not already know this to be true ( the contract was the only
suprise - we could not figure out how you kept so many of them silent
for so long). Has Meadows quit yet? Has Zumrick bought a rebreather?
Maybe he would like one of ours to dive with. Maybe Zumrick does not
think you are worth dying for, as he does not need to be a hero, and
maybe he does not want to pay that price to dive a cave that he could
dive anytime properly.

You go on to lie about "being ahead of schedule with the mapping". You
have mapped NOTHING. You will not be able to map A Tunnel since you
jerked around for two months while we could have been doing productive
dives, and you will not be able to make that monstrosity work in B
Tunnel , if in fact it still works at all.   

 Where's the map, Bill? When are you going to "triple our distance"?
When are you going to get to our first stage drop? When do you think the
cumulative distance covered by every dive you have done will add up to
one of our "Little Piker Weekends"?

 Since when is cave radio "new technology". How much of the lawn at the
Inn have you successfuly surveryed? Using this technique, how many
errors have you found in your deep air survey from '87? You will not
find any in mine, it closes with known features that are out of your
reach.

 Bill, the clear tunnels go noplace - they are nothing - they are not a
problem, they have pristine drinking water in them and they never leave
the property. They draw from the 300 foot aquifer. The water barely
sustains life.

 The conduit is everything - the part you don't have the abliity to dive
- the WKPP part, we call it "Downtown". You don't have anyone who has
ever been Downtown, and you don't have anyone who could go Downtown and
come back. We have been Downtown so many times that we stopped counting
- that is "experience".

  We also don't bullshit.

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