Mike, I can not believe this guy. He is worse than I said he was. This is so stupid and so dangerous that the Park needs to know that this risk is sitting out where the public could be severely injured or killed ( never mind the obvious failures). Stone is the single most arrogant incompetent I have ever run across, and he needs to have his ignorant butt booted out of there. I do not even allow SEALED scooters out of the water until the Park is closed. This joker has no regard for anything but making a name for himself, and that name is mud , in my opinion, and everyone needs to know it. He is going to kill some people , and we all recognize this. Nobody in cave diving but the absolute worst and the absolute most ignorant are involved with this guy. I wonder if Stone even understands what the "hydride" in Nickel Metal Hydride means, or how a battery actually works. I know he is clueless on cave diving, but even a shade tree auto mechanic understands how a battery works. This message you included below tells it all. Also, I can tell you from making these things myself that he is grossly exaggerating the prices of everything. I wonder if King knows how badly he is being hammered on this stuff. Has King even gotten a dive yet? He better hurry up, as not only is it going to rain like hell, whe the park people get back from vacation and find out that these strokes have pulled off four dives in a month and have not even put that bullshit mapper in the cave, they are not going to be happy. I also hear the complaints form the public are mounting up big time. mike bruic wrote: > > George---did you get the file attachments I sent with post # 2. Are > you going to post this on tech, and cavers??? I want to expose this > asshole for who he is to the world. > > Mike Bruic Subject: Re: Vacuum bulkhead plate for Fat Man Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:46:13 -0500 From: "mike bruic" <mikebruic@di*.co*> To: "William C. Stone" <BillStone@co*.co*> Bill-- the batteries supplied by GM Ovonics have a yellow warning tag stating "Warning, Explosive Gases", this does not correspond with their "verbal" statement. I realize they have safety valves on each battery, but then, thats X times the amount of batteries in each scooter for a failure point to occur. Should this failure happen on the mapper, it would almost certainly flood the front section, or require a complete recalibration of most, if not all it's electronic components from the shock wave. This alone would justify the expense, not to even mention the divers safety, or the fact that, should it explode 14,000' back into the cave, It will most likely remain there. . Mike Bruic -----Original Message----- From: William C. Stone <BillStone@co*.co*> To: John Vanderleest <dive_tech@cs*.co*> Cc: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>; John Zumrick (new) <JZumrick@wo*.at*.ne*> Date: Monday, November 23, 1998 7:21 PM Subject: Vacuum bulkhead plate for Fat Man Guys -- The bulkhead plates (4 of them) come to $1642 for outfitting the Fat Men with complete electronics isolation. Are we all agreed this is absolutely required? I need to hear a unanimous response from all four of you (John, John, Andrew, and Mike). Please respond by tommorow morning early as I will need to kick this off at the shop before I leave for work. Thanks. Bill Subject: Re: Vacuum bulkhead plate for Fat Man Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:46:13 -0500 From: "mike bruic" <mikebruic@di*.co*> To: "William C. Stone" <BillStone@co*.co*> Bill-- the batteries supplied by GM Ovonics have a yellow warning tag stating "Warning, Explosive Gases", this does not correspond with their "verbal" statement. I realize they have safety valves on each battery, but then, thats X times the amount of batteries in each scooter for a failure point to occur. Should this failure happen on the mapper, it would almost certainly flood the front section, or require a complete recalibration of most, if not all it's electronic components from the shock wave. This alone would justify the expense, not to even mention the divers safety, or the fact that, should it explode 14,000' back into the cave, It will most likely remain there. . Mike Bruic -----Original Message----- From: William C. Stone <BillStone@co*.co*> To: John Vanderleest <dive_tech@cs*.co*> Cc: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>; John Zumrick (new) <JZumrick@wo*.at*.ne*> Date: Monday, November 23, 1998 7:21 PM Subject: Vacuum bulkhead plate for Fat Man Guys -- The bulkhead plates (4 of them) come to $1642 for outfitting the Fat Men with complete electronics isolation. Are we all agreed this is absolutely required? I need to hear a unanimous response from all four of you (John, John, Andrew, and Mike). Please respond by tommorow morning early as I will need to kick this off at the shop before I leave for work. Thanks. Bill
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