O.K.  Thanks for clearing that up.

Bye.

Rich

On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Jesse Armantrout wrote:

> It is not about being mad.  It is about holding you in the "uttermost"
> contempt, a catagory heretofore reserved for used car salesmen,
> politicians, Chris Brown and other charlatans.  In short, I just don't like
> you.
> 
> Bye, bye.
> 
> ----------
> > From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.or*>
> > To: Jesse Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>; heinerth@gt*.ne*;
> John R. Rose <rose@cs*.sc*.ed*>
> > Cc: dive4wrk@pi*.co*; Cavers@cavers.com; techdiver@aq*.co*; PYLE,
> Richard <deepreef@bi*.bi*.ha*.or*>
> > Subject: RE: Richie the Punk
> > Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 2:57 PM
> > 
> > 
> > Jess, if you're gonna be mad at me, for crying out loud at least
> understand
> > *WHY* you are mad at me.
> > 
> > Aloha,
> > Rich
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jesse Armantrout [mailto:armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 9:51 AM
> > > To: Richard Pyle; heinerth@gt*.ne*; John R. Rose
> > > Cc: dive4wrk@pi*.co*; Cavers@cavers.com; techdiver@aq*.co*; PYLE,
> > > Richard
> > > Subject: Richie the Punk
> > >
> > >
> > > Scumbag,
> > > We are tired of hearing about your little scams, your infomercials
> about
> > > that deathtrap rebreather, your exaggerated dive reports, your
> decobabble
> > > based on bounce dives, your half answers and misdirections and all of
> your
> > > other bullshit.  We could care less about you and Joe Ditraitor.  You
> are
> > > just a nuisance and are to be treated as such.
> > >
> > > Get lost, punk.
> > >
> > > ----------
> > > > From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.or*>
> > > > To: heinerth@gt*.ne*; John R. Rose <rose@cs*.sc*.ed*>
> > > > Cc: dive4wrk@pi*.co*; Cavers@cavers.com; techdiver@aq*.co*;
> PYLE,
> > > Richard <deepreef@bi*.bi*.ha*.or*>
> > > > Subject: RE: You fit right in
> > > > Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 12:36 PM
> > > >
> > > > Joe,
> > > >
> > > > It's pretty clear that they still don't know what's going on. They're
> > > using
> > > > the shotgun approach to retort.  I suggest we leave them confused for
> a
> > > > while longer.  If they haven't figured it out by the time we each get
> > > back
> > > > from our respective trips, maybe we'll explain it to them.
> > > >
> > > > Take care,
> > > > Rich
> > > >
> > > > Richard L. Pyle
> > > > Ichthyology, Bishop Museum
> > > > 1525 Bernice St., Honolulu, HI 96817
> > > > Ph: (808) 848-4115  Fax: (808) 847-8252
> > > > email: deepreef@bi*.or*
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Jill Heinerth [mailto:heinerth@gt*.ne*]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 1:02 AM
> > > > > To: John R. Rose
> > > > > Cc: dive4wrk@pi*.co*; Cavers@cavers.com;
> > > techdiver@aq*.co*; PYLE,
> > > > > Richard
> > > > > Subject: Re: You fit right in
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > John BOY et al,
> > > > >
> > > > > >Imagine my surprise at seeing you on the WakToo web page.
> > > > >
> > > > > What the heck are you talking about.  I told Robert and saw JJ and
> Dan
> > > > > Volker the day before I left.  I told them I had to goto my
> > > > > Grandmother's house to close it up for the winter, then I was
> heading
> > > up
> > > > > to WAK2 to pick up a scooter for Rich and tie up some loose ends.
> > > > >
> > > > > >I guess now we can see why you were so defensive with respect
> > > > > >to the USDCT's lack of competance to dive Wakulla.
> > > > >
> > > > > First of all "competance" is spelled competence.  For a phD in
> > > computers
> > > > > you should be able to work a spell check.
> > > > >
> > > > > What the heck are you talking about.  I am responding to an
> emergency
> > > > > situation and helping make this project more safe.  You have
> > > no concern
> > > > > what I am doing.  YOU have not replied to my personal e-mail to
> you,
> > > > > so...
> > > > >
> > > > > >Well, I am sure
> > > > > >with you on board to unbend them, that will make all of the
> > > difference.
> > > > >
> > > > > You speak as though wakula guys NEVER get bent.  I KNOW your guys
> have
> > > > > been bent.  Stop the being ignorant.
> > > > >
> > > > > >Are you going to get to dive Wakulla?
> > > > >
> > > > > NO, I am NOT a good enough cave diver and I have my hands full
> setting
> > > > > up a chamber and PTC system.  I did bring my dry suit, but I will
> use
> > > > > that for lock ins and outs from the SAT chamber.
> > > > >
> > > > > >I'm sure that you are as competant
> > > > > >as anyone else on the team. After all, nobody else has any
> experience
> > > > > >in this kind of thing either.
> > > > >
> > > > > First of all "competant" is spelled competent.  For a phD in
> computers
> > > > > you should be able to work a spell check.
> > > > > Why are you being an ass?  You are convinced that these guys know
> > > > > nothing.  A SHORT 3 years ago, you and I sat around and said,
> "those
> > > > > cave diver guys are crazy".  Now, you are a GOD.  3 years from non
> > > > > certified diver to DIVE GOD. WOW.  Can you teach me???
> > > > >
> > > > > >I am however surprised that knowing George Irvine's reservations
> > > > > >concerning USDCT, you as an at the time "stealth" member of USDCT
> > > > > >tried to quickly get George to sell you one of his scooters.
> > > > >
> > > > > NO, you have engaged in the alligator mouth and humming bird ass
> > > > > syndrome.  I was trying to get a scooter to make my dives in HAWAII
> > > > > safer.
> > > > >
> > > > > >You must have realized that if you were honest and showed your
> true
> > > > > >colors you wouldn't stand a snowball's chance of getting a Gavin
> > > > > >scooter.
> > > > >
> > > > > No, see my note above about the alligator.  TRUE COLORS?
> > > Since when do
> > > > > I need to pay a person to SELL me something, then tell them
> everything
> > > I
> > > > > will do with it.  All I wanted was a scooter which would go to
> 400-500
> > > > > feet.  George said his could not do it.  I moved on to someone who
> > > > > could.  Be careful, you do not know EVERYTHING.
> > > > >
> > > > > >What's the matter? Don't trust Stone's bad copies?
> > > > >
> > > > > Boy have you got your LIONS crossed.  Who said I have a Stone's
> copy.
> > > I
> > > > > bought a scooter which would go to 400-500 feet from the
> > > FACTORY!  Rich
> > > > > is getting a scooter from Stone or someone else which I am picking
> up
> > > > > while I am here...
> > > > > >Well, as you say, this is America. I suppose that you agree with
> our
> > > > > >president, deceit is relative.
> > > > >
> > > > > What the heck are you talking about?
> > > > >
> > > > > >You never did think that the rules
> > > > > >applied to you.
> > > > >
> > > > > What the heck are you talking about?  Who's rules, YOURS, or
> George's.
> > > > >
> > > > > >However, I never thought of you as sneaky.
> > > > > >Live and learn.
> > > > >
> > > > > SNEAKY, this coming from a guy who became a dive GOD in three
> years,
> > > > > went off to fight a fake war under a dictators rule after
> forgetting
> > > > > where he came from.  OH BENEDICT, you may kiss my ass SIR.
> > > > >
> > > > > >Good luck with your new team. After thinking about, I can
> > > see that you
> > > > > >will fit right in.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't need luck helping them to fix DCI's or showing them
> > > how to make
> > > > > things safer.  I have that skill.  As for fitting in, I think these
> > > > > people are some of the nicest in the industry.  I have not
> > > commented on
> > > > > their diving ability, because I don't speak of things which I do
> not
> > > > > know for fact.  UNLIKE YOU and yours.
> > > > >
> > > > > Love and kisses
> > > > > JOEY
> > > > >
> > >
> > 
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Richard Pyle
Ichthyology, Bishop Museum                deepreef@bi*.or*
1525 Bernice St.                          PH: (808) 848-4115
Honolulu, HI 96817-2704                   FAX: (808) 847-8252

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