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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 18:17:29 +0000
From: Jeff Bentley <jeffbentley@mi*.co*>
To: CuteEve@ao*.co*
CC: techdiver@aq*.co*, cavers@cavers.com
Subject: Re: Techdivers arguments
How is Cute Eve being coerced by the Hyena clan?

Jeff

CuteEve@ao*.co* wrote:

> I asked Kee Karoo1 for the feelings on his neck of the woods about many items
> from the "tech" world. From his personal response, I take the liberty of
> posting an excerpt from his message related to this newsgroup
>
> On Nov 25 Kee Karoo1 wrote :
> <<<
> <<<As for the techdiver or cavers newsgroups, we (my unit and our
club
> members) monitored them for a while til we realized its complete uselessness.
> They are a group of hyenas barking at unison against anyone else outside their
> clan. Intolerance at its apogee. Not only they are wrong in their claim to
> DIR, but their shouting tantrums and group-coordinated attacks on any
> divergent views remind us of those names in history who claimed to have
> absolute truth on their side and used that claim to trample on everyone else's
> right to make their own decision. One of the reasons I wear this uniform is to
> garantee every American their right to choose without coercion. I am
> definitely not going to bow to the hyenas.
>
> Our club does almost exclusively deep wrecks (over 150'), nobody even comes
> close to their so-called hogarthian setup or DIR, and we have been accident
> free  since our inception more than 20 years ago. Do we have discipline ?
> Yes.
> Do they have discipline? Yes. So, it might not be the gear configuration after
> all.
> I have seen many, many different configurations in many, many different places
> around the world doing similar and doing dis-similar tasks. The secret is NOT
> the gear setup, nor its configuration. It's in the strict discipline. The
> hyenas have discipline, so do we, so do many others around the world; whether
> Brazil, France or Belgium. Those who have it, will remain accident-free. Those
> who don't, their configuration will make little difference in their fate.
>
> Once in a while someone reads an argument in the NG and brings it to
> discussion at our meeting. We look for weaknesses and strengths of a
> particular claim and each person decides on their own whether it is viable for
> them. When we dive, we agree on a configuration for the entire group (it could
> be different for any particular dive) and then we all dive it as part of the
> plan. >>>
> >>>
> Maybe it is the discipline what really makes the difference, not the gear
> configuration. All the barking is futile.  Opinions on other subjects have
> been posted in rec.scuba.
> QTV
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