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Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 18:36:35 -0400
To: "Michael Barnette" <barney00@ta*.rr*.co*>,
     "VBTech list"
From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
Subject: Re: U.S.S. Virginia
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Ken is the only one to have dived all 10 of the Billy Mitchell 
Fleet........it took him 10 years to do it. I need to dive only 3 more and 
I will have done it in 5 years. I have dived several of them more than 
once.....no one has dived the Ostfriesland more than Rick and I....no brag 
just fact. I do believe that it was Roger Huffman took Ken to the Virginia, 
but I could be wrong on that.


  At 06:03 PM 8/6/03 -0400, Michael Barnette wrote:
>I am simply using the depths obtained via our bottom timers as a reference,
>in order to avoid the differences in depth standards (boat depth recorder,
>FW versus SW, etc.).  What boat did Ken dive the Virginia off of?
>Interesting.  I know he did the New Jersey, but everyone told us that no one
>had been to the Virginia yet.  We wanted to hit the New Jersey too, but the
>weather earlier in the week really did not cooperate for all the dives we
>had planned.
>Hasta,
>Mike
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>
>To: "Michael Barnette" <barney00@ta*.rr*.co*>; "VBTech list"
><VBTech@ci*.co*>
>Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:08 PM
>Subject: Re: U.S.S. Virginia
>
>
> > Mike, it was not a troll. Call the guy, he gave his phone number for the
> > story. I have removed his email as I am sure he has no interest in the
>dick
> > waving. I heard of the incident but no name was given to me who it was. As
> > for the depths......those depths came from Ken Clayton. He will be quick
>to
> > tell you that you have not calculated the error of your depth gauges as
> > most are calibrated for FW. You can bet your ass he has done his and stuck
> > his hand in the deepest washout of the wreck......so no one can say they
> > hit a deeper spot than him.
> >
> >
> >    At 05:36 PM 8/6/03 -0400, Michael Barnette wrote:
> > >Good timing (and trolling) JT.  Yes, you are correct about the incident.
> > >However, it had nothing to do with current, as there has been a general
> > >absence of current in Hatteras this year.
> > >The incident occurred due to a freak front that moved through, with the
> > >weather quickly changing from stable 3-foot seas and 10 knot winds, to
>10-12
> > >foot spilling seas and 20-25 knot winds.  Couple that with our boat
>breaking
> > >a throttle cable that disabled it for an extended duration while we were
>on
> > >deco, which prompted our captain to wisely call in our friends on the R/V
> > >Cape Fear, who were just leaving the U.S.S. Monitor site.  They did a
>great
> > >job of negotiating the rough seas and picking us up; it was nice to see
>so
> > >many familiar faces in a situation like that.
> > >The dive itself went great, as we had zero current and incredibly clear
> > >water on the bottom.  It was phenomenal!  In spite of the damage
>inflicted
> > >by Mitchell to the superstructure of the Virginia, the hull itself is
>pretty
> > >damn solid.  There is one area on the starboard side near the stern that
>has
> > >a significant amount of damage.  You could scooter right into the
>interior
> > >of the ship, and brass artifacts such as bomb-proof lights (ironic) were
> > >still attached to bulkheads.  The running gear of the Virginia looked to
> > >have been removed prior to its sinking (no rudder, struts, shaft, or
>props).
> > >Big warsaw grouper on the wreck too.
> > >I have just added some video clips to the AUE website if you want to see
>the
> > >wreck for yourself.
> > >http://www.mikey.net/aue/theater.htm
> > >The actual footage will also be available for anyone visiting the
>Graveyard
> > >of the Atlantic Museum in Hatteras; they have the start of a nice display
>on
> > >Billy Mitchell and the sinkings of the Virginia and New Jersey.
> > >BTW, the Virginia is deeper than 390fsw, as we hit 397fsw and we were
>still
> > >well off the bottom; the wreck sits in a huge washout, testament to the
> > >strong currents that run over the wreck.
> > >Cheers,
> > >Mike
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>
> > >To: "VBTech list" <VBTech@ci*.co*>
> > >Cc: <clark@bu*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:50 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Have you dived the battleship USS New Jersey?
> > >
> > >
> > > > At 10:21 AM 8/6/03 -0600, you wrote:
> > > > >Hello. I work for a newspaper in New Jersey called the Courier-Post.
> > >We're
> > > > >writing a story about the original battleship USS New Jersey that was
> > >sunk 3
> > > > >miles off of Cape Hatteras in 1923. I was trying to find someone who
>has
> > > > >dived
> > > > >down to that ship.
> > > > >
> > > > >Have you done that? Or do you know of someone who has?
> > > >
> > > > Hi Clark
> > > > I have not dived the wreck New Jersey yet, it rest in 335fsw very
>close to
> > > > the Virginia which rest in 390fsw. I have added several NG list to
>this
> > > > email as I know of several divers who have dived those wrecks and are
> > > > members of those list and I'm sure they will contact you privately. I
>do
> > > > know that these wrecks lay in high current water and that just
>recently
> > > > I've been told a group tried to dive one of those wrecks and had to be
> > > > rescued by another boat other than the one they were diving from,
>those
> > > > wrecks are best dived in the spring and fall when the current is not
>as
> > > > strong I been told by the local Captains.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps with your story
> > > > Capt JT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >It's very deep - 300 feet or so - which I know is much deeper than
>the
> > > > >average
> > > > >diver would go.
> > > > >
> > > > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >Clark Perks
> > > > >The Courier-Post
> > > > >856-486-2956 (work)
> > > > >856-983-1884 (home)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get
>in
> > >the
> > > > water"
> > > > Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
> > > >   Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
> > > > Email     captjt@mi*.co*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in
>the
> > water"
> > Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
> >   Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
> > Email     captjt@mi*.co*
> >
> >
> >


"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in the 
water"
Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
  Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
Email     captjt@mi*.co*


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