Hi Bruce, I wanted to thank you for your reasoned approach to this whole mess. I have been looking on from the outside as someone interested in what DIR has to offer, and not sure what all the fuss was about. Then along comes Mr. Irvine bashing you for asking, in my opinion, reasonable questions and I begin to understand why there is a vicious debate about DIR. Not to detract from Mr. Irvine's many impressive accomplishments, but I hope that his attitude is not indicative of the majority of DIR proponents. Mr. Irvine, if you are reading this please do not mistake it as attacking you - I have a great deal of respect for what you have done and what you stand for (your safety record at WKPP speaks for itself). My point is similar to what others have said - it is hard to learn from someone who berates you for not doing things the way they do. While DIR may be one of the safest ways to dive, the only way to create more DIR divers is to show them what it involves and let them come to a personal realization that it will work for them. I look forward to meeting you at some time in the future and sharing philosophies over a post-dive beer :-). I am, as Bruce is, still interested in the DIR Fundamentals course as something I can learn from and become a better, safer diver - a goal I hope that we all share. Regards, David. ----- Original Message ----- From: <scubapig@co*.ne*> To: <email@example.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 00:31 Subject: Re: RE: [dir-asia] Digest Number 102 I think we've beat this into the ground, but I'd like to say a few last words before I shut my yap. First, thanks to all the GUE instructors and DIR practitioners that read and took the time to understand what I wrote and responded accordingly. To some of the others that don't quite understand the point I tried to make, please let me explain... I came out and attacked DIR by comparing to another organization that many people consider a cult. It may not be accurate, but it sure got your attention. You did what I expected - you fought back. You called me a "loud mouth" and told me I had a chip on my shoulder for talking smack about something you felt strongly about. You ignored the fact that I praised JJ and even read three of his books (if I was a non-believer, why would I keep buying his stuff and supporting GUE????). It didn't matter what the rest of message said, you were pissed. This is a classic example of human behavior - when threatened, you defend yourself! Now, let's turn things around a little. How do you think tech divers from other training organizations feel when you attack their background, training, and mentors? They resist and shut their brains off just like you did. They start calling DIR divers loud mouths with chips on their shoulder. Does any of this sound familiar? These people (just as you have) have invested an incredible amount of time and money in equipment and training. The last thing they want to hear is that they're an idiot or a stroke. Think about that the next time you meet a diver that is not familiar with DIR. Instead of calling them a stroke or an idiot, try sharing (not telling) why you feel DIR is an effective system for diving. Not a better way, a different way. If the system truly is better, they'll see it and convince themselves that it's the only way to dive. I look forward to eventually taking the fundamentals course. Dive safe Bruce Wyrwitzke -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `firstname.lastname@example.org'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `email@example.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `firstname.lastname@example.org'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `email@example.com'.
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