Mine runs fine, you tested that one. What the others do is up to them, I'm 
sure they just would rather have them working than anything. This would not 
carry on so long if the guys that kiss your ass would not jump out and 
post, prolonging the facts. I only post things I can prove.


At 08:29 PM 8/11/02 -0400, George Irvine wrote:
>JT, like I said, all of you can send them back and I will refund all of your
>money. You bought the first round of wreck scooters, you got them yesterday
>when you wanted them, I told you I would take care of anything and I did.
>
>The bottom line here is I don't like you and you don't like me. Nothing more
>, nothing less, only no matter how much I dislike you , I still took care of
>whatever needed taking care of. And no matter how much you don't like me,
>you have my scooter. So either get over it or sell it back to me and get one
>of Rod's,
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
>Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 4:04 PM
>To: dmdalton; Duane Liptak Jr.; techdiver@aquanaut.com; 'Quest@Gu*.
>Com'; George Irvine
>Cc: vbtech@ci*.co*
>Subject: Re: George's Scooter Support / WAS - Cheap parts?
>
>
>At 06:26 PM 8/10/02 -0700, dmdalton wrote:
>
>Look, "Drift & Bob" Dalton your the biggest lair I have heard in a very
>long time,  Tom and Brad do not post bullshit or like to get involved in
>debates after getting screwed. They got the scooters, one is Dave's old one
>and Tom got his from G. Both are not real happy.......... Brad has been
>emailing G in private of which I am kept informed of..........Tom doesn't
>want to even talk to him after the last round of pounding G gave him over a
>broken switch that G said probably got broke during building, but here read
>this if you have any doubts.....
>
>At 09:46 PM 8/7/02 -0400, you wrote:
>
> >Too funny.  I had no idea.  JT, your post to Jim Thompson was right on,
> >the conversation to George was exactly as you stated it.
> >
> >later,
> >
> >tom
>
>read on
>
> >After I first used the scooter I found it took in a
> >small amount of water. I called George, told him the
> >problem and let HIM diagnose it. He told me the
> >solution and shipped me a replacement nose cone that
> >day, no charge. I took the scooter out with the new
> >nose cone and problem solved!
>
>Dalton you are so stupid.......... while trying to kiss up to G's ass you
>expose the fact that now 4 out of 5 of the scooters he sent us had
>problems, can we safely now say that he does NO QA of his scooters at all
>before sending them out............
>
>
>
> >Yes JT has had, and destroyed, more scooters than most
> >folks have ever owned.  And while JT has 3 scooters,
> >he uses one of George's he got from someone else
> >because his other two are in pieces.
>
>You are still a  lair.......... all are running, the Apollo always has, I
>don't even use the Gavin on the small dives or for digging its to dam big.
>
> >  He has pretty
> >well destroyed them while trying to re-design his
> >Apollos into "Gavin look alikes". However, when I last
> >saw one of then in April, it looked a bit more like
> >the "Bride of Frankenstein".
>
>You still don't know WTF you are talking about, the "Frankenstein" when you
>saw it was to be tested that day, I had never even had it in the water. We
>didn't have time and Cobb was fucking with it and the trigger wire came off.
>
>One thing we did learn from your post, every scooter but the first one has
>had problems.
>
>Cobb/JT first scooter OK ..... Todd reed switch problem ..... Tom reed
>switch , now clutch...... Dave/Brad ran backwards, now clutch and
>trigger....... "Drift & Bob" Dalton leaked, bad nose cone.
>The sixth scooter was an SS, Bill got it, he thought it wasn't fast enough,
>Rod took him on a dive and proved it was fine, it has never leaked, broke
>down or trigger stuck......
>
>Dalton, at least let G know you are going to post so he can pull his dick
>back in so you don't step on it so hard.......
>
>
> >Dave Dalton
> >
> >
> >--- Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*> wrote:
> > > Hi Duane
> > > So you really see no problem with him selling Gavins
> > > with parts in them
> > > that he does not even use in his own. The scooters
> > > are said to be the best,
> > > they are even advertised as having gold
> > > superconnectors, with all of these
> > > statements a 5 dollars plastic clutch is put in it
> > > and sent to the buyer.
> > > You telling me that's OK with you, did he do it to
> > > you? I saw nothing on
> > > the options page about a choice in clutches, only a
> > > mention in the owners
> > > manual part and it does not say anything in great
> > > detail about it, only how
> > > to set the clutch with the washers and such. No cost
> > > is found for it in
> > > pricing, unless someone who already knows this stuff
> > > tells you, you buy the
> > > scooter blind to this fact. Hopefully now everyone
> > > is aware of this and
> > > know what to ask for.......
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >    At 11:20 PM 8/7/02 -0500, Duane Liptak Jr. wrote:
> > > >The whole Gavin maintenance deal is really
> > > simplified once you understand
> > > >that the things are virtual tanks, if anything IS
> > > wrong, it's probably
> > > >something that the operator screwed up because they
> > > didn't know how it
> > > >worked, and that if there is a problem, ask Trey,
> > > without TELLING him what
> > > >you think the diagnosis should be.  Cotton in the
> > > appropriate place, if
> > > >necessary.  He'll of course know exactly what the
> > > problem is, and you'll be
> > > >back on the trigger in no time.  The only problem
> > > I've really had with mine
> > > >is wearing out blades by diving the shit out of
> > > them.  I, of course, thought
> > > >that I had screwed something up, but a phone call
> > > to Trey, new blades a
> > > >couple of days later, and viola...back in the
> > > saddle.
> > > >
> > > >Duane
> > > >
> > > >Subject: RE: Cheap parts - video? RE: Cut to the
> > > chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova
> > > >Tech
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I had a few problems with the reed in mine. I
> > > was told by JT (the other
> > > > > JT) that George was using the new more expensive
> > > reed because of
> > > > > pressure from customers who were being swayed by
> > > the fact that Rodney
> > > > > uses a quality reed whereas George's old
> > > scooters just used a cheap
> > > > > Radio Shack one, even though the cheap one
> > > worked fine. But apparently
> > > > > the more expensive one is more finicky so, on
> > > Jim's advice (relayed from
> > > > > George) I threw it away and replaced it with the
> > > cheap one - no more
> > > > > problems.
> > > > >
> > > > > And George was nothing but helpful in getting
> > > the problems sorted out -
> > > > > even sending me a free replacement relay when I
> > > insisted that I thought
> > > > > the problem was in there (George said it would
> > > be the reed from the
> > > > > start - should've listened).
> > > > >
> > > > > Ian
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Jim
> > > > > > I will not say the scooters are not fun and do
> > > not get the job done.
> > > > > What
> > > > > > happen was 2 of the scooters would stick on or
> > > not come on. George
> > > > > said to
> > > > > > rotate the reed switch, this worked for one.
> > > The other would still
> > > > > stick
> > > > > > on, I told the guy he had a bad switch or
> > > something. We also found
> > > > > that
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > latch was placed right over the switch and if
> > > you unclipped it the
> > > > > scooter
> > > > > > would finally cut off. The only thing we could
> > > figure was that the
> > > > > > pressure
> > > > > > from the latch was distorting the reed switch.
> > > The guy email this to
> > > > > > George
> > > > > > and George pounded him on "How the hell is the
> > > water pressure doing
> > > > > that",
> > > > > > some kind of communication break down happened
> > > and the guy didn't want
> > > > > to
> > > > > > get pounded by G again, so I told him to just
> > > tell G to send another
> > > > > > switch
> > > > > > and just pay for it. That fixed the problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The clutches are a separate issue, I do not
> > > think anyone knew they
> > > > > would
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > getting a cheap clutch or that there was a
> > > different one that G uses.
> > > > > All
> > > > > > the guys saw was the one that Cobb got and it
> > > worked fine, the
> > > > > following
> > > > > > ones had minor problems, one ran
> > > backwards....... I did not even know
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > the scooters needing a better clutch and one
> > > would think that G would
> > > > > not
> > > > > > even offer them to anyone with less than the
> > > best parts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   Rodney no longer puts the slower motor in
> > > his because of the posting
> > > > > I
> > > > > > put out on how slow Christina's was. Now the
> > > buyer will only get the
> > > > > best
> > > > > > and does not have an option, G needs to do the
> > > same thing so the buyer
> > > > > > does
> > > > > > not feel short changed.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> >
> >"You just can't show up for "Game Day" and expect to win.
> >   You've got to go to practice if you want to be ready!"
> >
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