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From: "trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
To: "Christian Gerzner" <christiang@cc*.co*.au*>,
     "Aquanaut Mail" , "Pina"
Subject: RE: DIR-igible or Pregnant?
Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 21:36:56 -0400
I just ate a huge dinner across the hall from that thing and was showing it.
The picture is a bad angle as well. I'll get Pina to post some more accurate
pictures - she took one of me yesterday in Cozumel in a tank suit. I am a
little bigger than I want to be right now for running and such , by maybe
3-5 pounds, but was just tested at 8.9% body fat and while I am 50, age is
not an issue at all in any of these things. My fitness is as it always is. I
show up every day - for the last 40 years.

If there is anyone else on here within 20 years of 50 who can post a picture
of themselves in a tank suit, let's see it.

It is amazing the fascination I hold for so many in diving when I am not
even in the business and am no threat to anyone. I always wonder why anyone
gives a shit what I think, do , or say, and I am clearly amazed that people
who spend so much time hating me spend so much time worrying about me and
checking up on me. If I say things that apply to you that you don't like,
change those things or tell me why you are right, don't sit around obsessing
over me.


-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Gerzner [mailto:christiang@cc*.co*.au*]
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 2:49 AM
To: Aquanaut Mail
Subject: Re: DIR-igible or Pregnant?


"Michael J. Black" wrote:
>
> http://www.baue.org/images/demo/BAUE-Gear/Pages/Image4.html
> http://www.baue.org/images/demo/BAUE-Lecture/Pages/Image8.html
>
> :-)

And your point is?

Oh, you are perhaps trying to point out that George has a bit of a
paunch? If not, what am I missing?

So, let's assume that was your point.

Has it occurred to you, mr medico "expert" (lower case intended), that
in today's what we call civilised environment, that is often what
happens to the superfit amongst us when they get a little older? I've
been fighting it for some 16 or so years since I was 45. Maybe earlier
in fact.

Yes, I, too, have a paunch. Do I like it? No. Will it go away? No.

Did you look at George's arms in those pics? Not a skerrick of fat on
'em, veins nicely exposed. Those arms, apart from his face, are the
only parts of him not clothed in the pics.

How old are you MJBMD? I suspect roughly the same age as George, maybe
a little younger. Want to stand up against him in a fitness test?

Hey. Want to do that with me maybe? Somehow or another I still seem to
be able to lift the odd steel doubles reasonably effortlessly time
after time. I'd say you have a "fair" age advantage there, I'd guess
that I'm the odd twenty years older than you are.

MJBMD:

I don't necessarily agree with everything that George says nor (FWTIW)
have I adopted everything that George espouses but I have, today, over
several years, read enough and understood enough to realise that the
vast majority of what the WKPP and GUE are about is correct.

More importantly I truly admire their, if you like, dogmatic approach
to make other divers see the point.

Sure, there are people, you included, who are going to be
diametrically opposed, that's human nature. If, however, you look at
it in cold logic, why the proponents of this *philosophy* of diving
are quite correct.

Until we come up with a better diving medium (not rebreathers, or
certainly not yet IMVHO) these people are at the forefront.

You, and your like, are simply naysayers, incapable of coming up with
a comment other than negative and that's the sad thing about this
whole subject.

You have no alternative.

Christian
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