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From: "Bruce Sherman" <bruce.s@co*.co*.nz*>
To: "Jim Cobb" <Cobber@ci*.co*>,
     "Thom Hadfield" ,
Subject: Re: On high current diving
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:21:15 +1200
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Don't forget the jelly fish - I hate those little tiny tropical =
bastards. Oh and the worst has to be some prick flushing the head on a =
boat without a tank just as you've launched off the back and spot it =
midair  Bleaucghh **^%##&^

Chaz
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jim Cobb=20
  To: Thom Hadfield ; techdiver@aquanaut.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 1:27 PM
  Subject: Re: On high current diving


  Dearest Thom-

  I neither believe nor disbelieve your 7 knot currents. I guess I'd say =
I'd have to see it to believe it.

  At any rate I the picture I had in my mind of being towed through the =
water at 7 knots was outlined in my post, nothing more.

  And to be pissed off over such a blatantly silly post as mine points =
out some problems at your end, not mine, Sir. Perhaps an adjustment of =
your medication would be in order.

  I suppose there are various ways to glamorize quarry and river diving, =
but I think that they are a different type of diving than ocean diving, =
presenting different, though lessor, challenges. But if that's all =
you've got then that's all you've got, I suppose.

  But I do admit to having a hard time feeling Manly Appreciation for =
those who drive their auto up to the lip of the water (fresh water, =
usually) don their equipment at their leasure on a dainty tarp so as to =
not dirty their feet. And then step into the water to knee depth, =
halting to adjust their gear and contemplate life before proceeding into =
the depths.

  No, a dive just does not seem to be a dive unless you have spent =
hundreds of dollars on a boat trip, spent hours listening to the =
deafening roar of diesel engines, and either froze or sweated (or both =
at the same time) in your bunk wondering if you are going to get barfed =
on again. Ah, yes, and the oders eminating from the head.=20

  And it's just not the same if you don't wreck your back and smash your =
elbows/fingers/knees/shins getting on/off the pitching, rolling boat, =
have people stomp on and drop heavy shit on your feet and suffer the =
ravages of salt water and diesel fumes on your hair, eyes, skin and dive =
equipment.

  I'm not a horse higher than any of my other ocean diving brethren. I =
just can't resist tweaking you quarry and river types. Go out and do a =
few ocean dives and you may find out why you don't get much sympathy =
from me (and apparently a few others) on this list. Keep it light, Thom, =
we are just having a little fun.

   Jim

  On Monday, July 30, 2001 11:21 PM, Thom Hadfield =
<thom.hadfield@ho*.co*> wrote:
  >Well, as the original post that led to this thread my point would be =
get
  >your facts straight before accusing others of lying about what they =
dive.
  >Cobb jumped my shit when I was telling the truth about a dive I try =
to do
  >once a week at least. And just because his dive style isn't one that =
works
  >well in high current doesn't mean that those of us who regularly dive =
these
  >currents are lying about our dives. That pissed me off. I have been =
honest
  >in all my post and took advice and flames alike. Cobb seems to think =
he is
  >on a high horse. I respect alot of his posts but when your wrong your =
wrong.
  >I have a lot to learn and am training and advancing my training =
weekly. I am
  >learning deep diving but that is not the only type of advanced and =
tech
  >diving out there.
  >
  >
  >Get the facts first Cobb.  And well it looks like Black spoke to soon =
as
  >well.
  >
  >
  >Anyways enough bitching this is all about diving right.
  >
  >Thom
  >----- Original Message -----
  >From: "Michael J. Black" <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>
  >To: "Aquanaut Mail" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
  >Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 7:02 PM
  >Subject: Re: On high current diving
  >
  >
  >> Poor Cobb, not only is he stupid and ugly, he can't even lie well.
  >>
  >> Have a nice day, Cobber ("why anybody would want to cripple =
themselves
  >> with a wrist deco computer is beyond me")!
  >>
  >> MJB ;-)
  >>
  >>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Don't forget the jelly fish - I hate those =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Chaz</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:Cobber@ci*.co*" =
title=3DCobber@ci*.co*>Jim=20
  Cobb</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:thom.hadfield@ho*.co*" =
title=3Dthom.hadfield@ho*.co*>Thom=20
  Hadfield</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"=20
  title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com>techdiver@aquanaut.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 01, =
2001 1:27=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: On high current =
diving</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Dearest Thom-<BR><BR>I neither believe nor
disbelieve =
your 7=20
  knot currents. I guess I'd say I'd have to see it to believe =
it.<BR><BR>At any=20
  rate I the picture I had in my mind of being towed through the water =
at 7=20
  knots was outlined in my post, nothing more.<BR><BR>And to be pissed =
off over=20
  such a blatantly silly post as mine points out some problems at your =
end, not=20
  mine, Sir. Perhaps an adjustment of your medication would be in=20
  order.<BR><BR>I suppose there are various ways to glamorize quarry and =
river=20
  diving, but I think that they are a different type of diving than =
ocean=20
  diving, presenting different, though lessor, challenges. But if that's =
all=20
  you've got then that's all you've got, I suppose.<BR><BR>But I do =
admit to=20
  having a hard time feeling Manly Appreciation for those who drive =
their auto=20
  up to the lip of the water (fresh water, usually) don their equipment =
at their=20
  leasure on a dainty tarp so as to not dirty their feet. And then step =
into the=20
  water to knee depth, halting to adjust their gear and contemplate life =
before=20
  proceeding into the depths.<BR><BR>No, a dive just does not seem to be =
a dive=20
  unless you have spent hundreds of dollars on a boat trip, spent hours=20
  listening to the deafening roar of diesel engines, and either froze or =
sweated=20
  (or both at the same time) in your bunk wondering if you are going to =
get=20
  barfed on again. Ah, yes, and the oders eminating from the head. =
<BR><BR>And=20
  it's just not the same if you don't wreck your back and smash your=20
  elbows/fingers/knees/shins getting on/off the pitching, rolling boat, =
have=20
  people stomp on and drop heavy shit on your feet and suffer the =
ravages of=20
  salt water and diesel fumes on your hair, eyes, skin and dive=20
  equipment.<BR><BR>I'm not a horse higher than any of my other ocean =
diving=20
  brethren. I just can't resist tweaking you quarry and river types. Go =
out and=20
  do a few ocean dives and you may find out why you don't get much =
sympathy from=20
  me (and apparently a few others) on this list. Keep it light, Thom, we =
are=20
  just having a little fun.<BR><BR> Jim<BR><BR>On Monday, July
30, =
2001=20
  11:21 PM, Thom Hadfield <<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:thom.hadfield@ho*.co*">thom.hadfield@home.com</A>>=20
  wrote:<BR>>Well, as the original post that led to this thread my =
point=20
  would be get<BR>>your facts straight before accusing others of =
lying about=20
  what they dive.<BR>>Cobb jumped my shit when I was telling the =
truth about=20
  a dive I try to do<BR>>once a week at least. And just because his =
dive=20
  style isn't one that works<BR>>well in high current doesn't mean =
that those=20
  of us who regularly dive these<BR>>currents are lying about our =
dives. That=20
  pissed me off. I have been honest<BR>>in all my post and took =
advice and=20
  flames alike. Cobb seems to think he is<BR>>on a high horse. I =
respect alot=20
  of his posts but when your wrong your wrong.<BR>>I have a lot to =
learn and=20
  am training and advancing my training weekly. I am<BR>>learning =
deep diving=20
  but that is not the only type of advanced and tech<BR>>diving out=20
  there.<BR>><BR>><BR>>Get the facts first Cobb.  And
well =
it=20
  looks like Black spoke to soon =
as<BR>>well.<BR>><BR>><BR>>Anyways=20
  enough bitching this is all about diving=20
  right.<BR>><BR>>Thom<BR>>----- Original Message =
-----<BR>>From:=20
  "Michael J. Black" <<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:mjblackmd@ya*.co*">mjblackmd@yahoo.com</A>><BR>>To=
:=20
  "Aquanaut Mail" <<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>><BR>=
>Sent:=20
  Wednesday, July 25, 2001 7:02 PM<BR>>Subject: Re: On high current=20
  diving<BR>><BR>><BR>>> Poor Cobb, not only is he stupid =
and ugly,=20
  he can't even lie well.<BR>>><BR>>> Have a nice day, =
Cobber ("why=20
  anybody would want to cripple themselves<BR>>> with a wrist deco =

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